Well it's day 5 of my detox and all is well on the food front. It's been interesting adding as much color to my plate as possible. Green, red, yellow peppers, orange squash and more. Oh yeah and the ability to add some animal protein. I think that the experience at Omega was really beneficial (the meals, I mean) as we didn't have much to choose from but we had Pilar there to help us. Now as I take that experience home the ability to add some good healthy proteins makes the experience that much easier.
Still dragging a bit. Hope to have that breakthrough feeling soon.
Here is my thought for the day.
Keep your thoughts positive because your thoughts become your words.
Keep your words positive because your words become your behaviors.
Keep your behaviors positive because your behaviors become your habits.
Keep your habits positive because your habits become your values.
Keep your values positive because your values become your destiny.
Peace and love,
Tony
November 25, 2008 11:12 PM
Jamie Martin says:
Detox
by VIN C on Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:52 am
Greetings all,
Just wanted to thank the presenters, staff and attendees, you all made it a great experience for me.
Detox and everything is going great, surprised since I love cheese and bread! I've lost 5 pounds already and feel less bloated!!!!!
Hope to try and continue the detox for and additional week before I begin introducing.
Cheers,
Vin
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November 25, 2008 11:12 PM
Jamie Martin says:
by Jen Sinkler on Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:48 am
Yeah, Vinnie and Tony! Sounds like you guys are rockin' it. I needed to hear that right now -- I was a dairy freak, and there have been a few moments when I've stared down the cottage cheese. But keeping mixed nuts and lots of fresh fruit in the house has made it a lot easier than I'd anticipated! (Whew.)
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November 25, 2008 11:13 PM
Jamie Martin says:
by Guest on Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:56 am
I have eaten so many nuts this past week I feel like the squirrels running around outside! and I'm continuing with the fruit, nut, coconut breakfasts. and still missing the coffee. tried dandelion root tea (box compared to coffee), not bad but not coffee.
I had a big egg-and-cheese sandwich craving yesterday, that was 3 forbidden food groups
but I didn't eat it! Just sat with and observed the craving, gave it a bit of compassion.
Ginger
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November 25, 2008 11:13 PM
Jamie Martin says:
by Christy Rice on Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:32 am
It sounds like you are all doing great and have really taken the teachings and information from Mark and Pilar to heart. I have been loving my breakfasts with cut-up apples, bananas, flax, nuts and seeds.
I've also been weaning my ear infection child from dairy when he's at home. When I came home Monday he was all stuffed up, coughing up a storm and complained that his ears were bothering him. He was home with me Tuesday and didn't have an ounce of dairy. Low and behold, he started to clear up as the day went by. Next day back to day care and back came the symptoms. Back with me Thursday and clearing up. Quite amazing!
My husband is interested in doing the detox plan so we'll be planning and shopping Saturday and starting (again) Sunday (yes, I fell off the detox bandwagon). If you have any suggestions or ideas about what you've been doing that has made the process easier, please share them!
And, as we near the end of the detox phase for all of you, let us know how the food reintroduction goes and what discoveries you make. I'm sure everyone will have something interesting to share.
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November 25, 2008 11:14 PM
Jamie Martin says:
by Pat on Sat Oct 18, 2008 1:09 pm
Just want to report that Clarke and I are still on the detox program and feeling great. I redid the symptom chart today and dropped to a score of 9. Feeling really good. I am noticing that I am sleeping through the night (one of life's pleasures), I haven't had a headache and I have lots of energy though the day. No more desire to have an afternoon nap. Clarke has been complaining the last several months about aching feet when he woke up in the morning. No more aching feet.
I think I'll continue the detox for another week since I feel so great. Lost 5 lb as well and my wedding ring feels loose so I must have lost some fluid.
I guess you could say that I am really motivated to continue by how good I am feeling.
Pat
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November 25, 2008 11:14 PM
Jamie Martin says:
by Christy Rice on Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:35 pm
Pat - that's awesome! How are other people doing with the detox? Any noticable changes? Any set backs that you need some help with? Let us know!
Christy
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November 25, 2008 11:14 PM
Jamie Martin says:
by newval on Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:33 pm
Hi everybody,
Detox is going well. I will continue for another week or two, as suggested in Dr. Hyman's book.
I did not really have many cravings, just a few thoughts now and then, but not enough for me to succumb to the temptation.
Guys, thanks for sharing your experiences!
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November 25, 2008 11:15 PM
Jamie Martin says:
by TonyT on Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:02 pm
SO I'm a bit frustrated but still determined. I've had some positive experiences with the detox. My legs feel "much" better. They've been chronically sore for a year and started feeling better right away. My feet don't tingle as much anymore. And my skin does not itch as much as it use to. Which was constanly!! Now it's only here or there. Ah but no weight loss and I still get my tired spells at least once a day albeit much shorter.
So I decided to find my ALCAT Food Sensitivity test from Dec. 07. Was I eating anything on there I shouldn't?
Here is my list:
SEVERE INTOLERANCE: Black Pepper, Cabbage, Carob, Cottonseed, Oat, Onion, Vanilla, Cassein
STRONG TOLERANCE: Avocado, Tea, Dates, Egg white, Hazelnut, Iceburg Lettuce, Mustard, Peach, Pistachio, Psyllium, Sage, Spinach and Walnut.
MILD TOLERANCE: Almond, Asparagus, Bass, Beet, Beet Sugar, Brewer's Yeast, Cabtaloupe, Cashew's, Clam, Coconut, Crab, Cranberry, Ginger, Haddock, Honeydew, Hops, Kidney Beans, Lamb, Malt, Mango, Millet, Navy Bean, Olive, Oyster, Paprika, Peanut, Pecan, Pineapple, Pinto Bean, Radish, Raspberry, Safflower, Sardine, Scallop, Snapper, Sunflower, Tapioca, Thyme, Trout, Veals.
It also says I have a moderate reaction to Candida Albicans and to avoid Baker's Yeast, Cane Sugar and Mushroom.
No reaction to Gluten or Gliadin
No reaction to whey but SEVERE reaction to Cassein: eliminate Cow's Milk, Goat's Milk and Whey.
Here are what I have been eating during my detox. SEVERE: Onion. STRONG: Avocado, Pistachios and Walnuts. MILD: Almonds, Cashews, Kidney bean, Lamb, Navy Bean, Olive, Rasberry.
Suggestions for SEVERE: avoid for 6 months - STRONG: 3 - 6 months - MILD: Eat on a rotation basis.
My questions:
1.) Will the weight loss come if I take a break on the SEVERE and STRONG reactive foods.
2.) Is there a preferred way to rotate the others.
3.) Can exercise trigger an insulin response? I seem to have a tired spell 1.5 to 2 hours after a long walk.
4.) Should I be asking Dr. Hyman directly?
If you've gotten this far - Thanks for Reading!!
Tony
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November 25, 2008 11:16 PM
Jamie Martin says:
Knowledge is Power, Except When It's Not
by Pilar Gerasimo on Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:10 pm
Hi everybody, so fun to read how great everyone is doing. Woo hoo!
So here's my update: I stayed on the program for a week, was feeling fantastic (loose wedding ring, loose clothes, sleeping through the night, happy mood, all that great stuff) and had planned to reintroduce dairy on Friday, just to see if it was the problem I was beginning to suspect it was (I often have a little cream in my coffee, but I don't do much milk or cheese because I just sort of sense it is not for me and I don't think it's particularly healthy). This detox, I figured, was the perfect opportunity to find out just how much dairy disagreed with me.
But then I didn't have time on Friday day to focus on finding one meal with dairy in it, much less two (hilariously, I was running around with mostly nuts and seeds and apples in my car -- hadn't thought of the fact I'd have to "prepare" for the reintroduction phase, duh.)
Anyway, I ended up at a fancy French restaurant for a late business-related dinner, and by this time, I'd sort of forgotten all about the reintroduction thing. But then out came the french bread (REAL french bread -- my nemesis!) with real butter. AAARRRGH.
Well, I said to myself, I have to reintroduce dairy anyway, right? And I already KNOW the gluten is going to make me sick, so why not just go for the whole catastrophe? I mean, how often do we do this, right? Total bargaining.
And totally NOT a good reintroduction scenario: In my case, I do bread hardly at ALL, and there's a reason for that. I already know it makes me sick. And the smallish amount of dairy present in the butter probably wasn't a very good reintroduction trial serving. Plus it was the end of the day, so I certainly wasn't going to get a second serving of dairy in, which a proper reintroduction would have called for. But for whatever reason, at that moment, it just seemed like a fun, jaunty, very French thing to do (except that most French people don't even EAT butter with their bread, but whatever ...)
Honestly, I realize now that none of this make the least bit of sense. Obviously, I know you need to reintroduce things one at a time in order to know what is causing trouble. And obviously, introducing a little bit of one thing I suspect I'm intolerant of in combination with a hearty dose of something I KNOW I'm intolerant of isn't even useful. But at the time, it seemed like a good idea. Did I mention the glass of red wine we had while waiting for our table?
Honestly, the bread was delicious, and ultimately, I have no regrets. But in retrospect (ah, the glorious Feedback phase!), I definitely saw a lot of things that I probably could have done differently.
First, I could have mentally AND physically prepared for the fact I was going to do this reintroduction, rather than leaving so much to chance and circumstance. I also really hadn't thought through the fact that having had NO dairy or gluten for 7 days was going to make things a little different than my usual occasional dance with dairy and gluten (in which I can do a little prancing about and, if I'm careful and don't eat too much, not experience too much trouble). Being totally clear for the past week, my body was also totally vulnerable to a major toxic reaction. I could have given this some thought.
I could also have chosen just ONE thing to introduce. Or I could have just put the whole reintroduction off until the next day, when I would have had a chance to plan my meals, go shopping, etc.
Finally, if I'd paused for a moment, I might have realized that a lot of the reason I was so susceptible to the the wine-bread-butter combination had everything to do with the fact I was feeling emotionally deprived (too much work, not enough pleasure last week), so the whole environment of this lovely French bistro just sucked me in: "Mais oui, but of course, I deserve to have fun like the carefree French!"
So yes, I could have followed my own brilliant advice and come through this situation quite handily, I'm sure. But did I do any of this? NO. And so the whole antigen/antibody thing that Mark explained (and that, let's face it, I know!) kicked my butt. And I still don't know if dairy is really a problem or not, because after three pieces of french bread, of COURSE I'm going to feel sick. I was gluten poisoned!
What did I learn from this, you ask? Well first, that knowing and doing are very different things. And also that being at the mercy of a long week and at the end of a very long day, engaged in intense conversation and a glass of excellent red wine definitely put me out of my normal thoughtful frame of mind. So, I suspect, did subsisting on apples and nuts all day. Great snacks, yes. Total meal replacements? Not so much.
And so ... the Feedback continued. I felt great all through dinner, and even felt fine on the way home. But I ended up spending the whole night tossing and turning. Couldn't sleep, weird dreams, tummy achy, gassy, tossy-turny. Woke up puffy faced and fingered, the whole nine yards. Blah.
The good news: I also woke up knowing that if I went back on my detox program, I'd be feeling better in no time. Which I did, and which I am (ah, the beauty of Follow-Through). Now I'm back in the saddle, feeling great again, and aiming to reintroduce dairy the RIGHT way next week. I'll let you know how it goes ...
P.
P.S. Tony, just saw your latest post! We'll try and get some answers for you, pronto!
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November 25, 2008 11:16 PM
Jamie Martin says:
by Tony on Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:44 am
Pilar,
I'm really glad you shared your experience with us. We really do have free will to choose but it is amazing how we always do not have the facts on hand, in our brain, to make the right choice. That's why listening to the your gut is important too because the right choices are stored in us and don't always make it to the brain!
I'm going to re-read your post again this Friday when I go to my fancy Italian dinner with a group from my church!!
Tony
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November 25, 2008 11:17 PM
Jamie Martin says:
Response for "No Weight Loss" Part 1
by Christy Rice on Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:53 pm
Hi Tony,
We sent your questions regarding food tolerances directly to Dr. Hyman for review. We hope to hear from him soon with his insights and recommendations. In the meantime, it's probably a good idea to eliminate ANY foods to which you have a known sensitivity.
If you are still being exposed to any food allergens or irritants, you may still be experiencing some level of inflammation, which would inhibit your weight loss and also contribute to stored “water weight.” It is always possible, even barring the known irritants you’ve eliminated, that there’s something else in your environment or diet that’s still causing a problem for you (a hidden ingredient, toxin, etc.), and Dr. Hyman will be able to shed some light on that.
Meanwhile, a few thoughts from our end …
It's not uncommon to experience low energy, fatigue and brain fog while in the midst of a major detox, especially if you’re also burning fat at the same time.
Even if you are not seeing a change in the scale’s “weight” numbers, there’s a good chance that if you are eating clean and exercising, you are burning a fair bit of fat. And as your stored fat burns, your body releases the toxins that were stashed away in those tissues. That can make you feel pretty weak, drained or even “poisoned.”
Drinking lots of water, getting enough rest and doing saunas or detox baths can help, as can the other detox and supplement suggestions in Dr. Hyman’s books and the UltraMetabolism downloadable guide. We also strongly suggest you carefully inspect all the labels on any foods you are eating, and ask for ingredient lists at any restaurants you’re frequenting, even for those foods you would assume are safe. Gluten and dairy both hide in all kinds of ingredients — if you have questions, let us know!
With regard to your question about the exercise-related fatigue you’re experiencing, a couple of questions:
1) Is the post-walk fatigue a different kind of fatigue than you get with the daily tired spell you described? Did you have those spells before you started on the program, or did they begin after you started detoxing and exercising more?
2) How long and intense are your walks? If you are walking for more than 30 minutes at a stretch, you might try breaking your long walks up into two shorter ones.
3) How are you feeling DURING your walks? Does the fatigue only set in afterward?
4) How much sleep are you getting, and have you ever been tested for sleep apnea? This is a very common culprit behind fatigue, particularly among folks carrying extra weight. Ditto with sleep walking combined with sleep eating (more common than you might think!).
5) Are you keeping a food journal — or can you think about what you’re eating for breakfast and lunch and let us know? It may be you are either running out of energy or dealing with some other fuel-related problem. Let us know and we’ll be happy to try and help you sort it out!
6) We’re assuming you’re not doing any diet sodas or diet foods, but tell us if you are. And are you drinking enough water?
Once we’ve got more info, we’ll put our heads together with Dr. Hyman to offer you more ideas. But in the short term, we strongly recommend listening to your body and being both gentle and patient (we love your “be positive in your thoughts” message), because what you’re doing is a HUGE deal: You’re essentially inviting your body to detox and heal from years of accumulated damage and stress. Right now, it’s rebuilding new healthy tissue and kicking damaged and gunky stuff out the door. That demands a lot of energy and resources, and it may just be that your body has rerouted all available power to your healing engines right now.
For the moment, to the extent you can listen to your body and lie down for a rest whenever fatigue hits, that will help support your body in whatever work it’s doing and will probably help stabilize your energy stores. And we’ll get back to you with more suggestions soon!
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November 25, 2008 11:17 PM
Jamie Martin says:
by Sharron on Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:54 pm
Hi,
I am on the detox for one and half weeks and I find that my rings are not tight. I am very strict about the detox, but I am not losing much. I am losing about one pound and one half. It is very easy to stay on the plan, but I had hoped I would have lost more. Please help.
Sharron
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November 25, 2008 11:18 PM
Jamie Martin says:
by Pat on Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:56 pm
Hi all,
All I can say is keep up the good work. Clarke and I are still on the detox. Clarke has lost 10 lb. and this week I gained 2 lb for an over all loss of 3 lb since the beginning. It seems somewhat unfair since I am doing all of the cooking and shopping for food and ultrabroth brewing. Alas I do feel quite good and am sleeping well at night. A pesky patch of exema on my forhead has vanished. For the first time ever, I think I may be sensitive to tomatoes. I never would have guessed that. I'll try them again in several weeks.
I do believe what Christie says is true. Even during times of little or no weight loss, there are things happening in the body in moving us toward better health. The weight loss will come. I had a flagging energy day yesterday but today is great. Hey the sun is shining and I walked my dogs through the woods. Lovely.
Clarke and I have not had a glass of wine in two weeks and in spite of having beer on tap at work....no beer. Still motivated. Good luck with your Italian dinner Tony.
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November 25, 2008 11:18 PM
Jamie Martin says:
Clarke Here and Still off the booze
by Pat on Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:51 pm
I am now 14 days without luscious alcohol. As Pat has said, I am down about 10 pounds over the last 2 weeks, and have found that my feet are feeling great, which before they were not. Pat and I are still pretty strict on the DETOX diet, and plan on doing so for another week before we start introducing the foods we used to eat.
Besides feeling good, I like Vince have noticed I do not feel bloated at all. Having lots of almonds and apples as snacks during the day really help me in not having cravings for food, and I can actually push myself away from the table when I feel full.
What I really like is I can beat some of the younger guys in to the corners in hockey and scoop the puck away from them. Hockey, the ONE TRUE SPORT!
I had a great time on that weekend, stopped in Rhienbeck old airport to see all the old WW1 biplanes in action, like dropping back 90 years in history.
Everyone keep going, stay positive, and be happy.
Clarke
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November 25, 2008 11:19 PM
Jamie Martin says:
by Tony on Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:58 pm
Thanks for the insights. I'm looking at eliminating the Almonds as I have been eating them daily.
I also think the detox is just bringing to light something that going on with me that I have been self-medicating with food. The fits of tiredness are extreme. Dr. Hyman witnessed me struggling to stay awake on our Saturday morning together. This happens up to 3 times a day. So if there is something underlying, the detox is a good thing.
I have felt better on an overall basis since dragging the first few days of detox.
Here are answers to your questions.
1) Is the post-walk fatigue a different kind of fatigue than you get with the daily tired spell you described? Did you have those spells before you started on the program, or did they begin after you started detoxing and exercising more?
I HAVE HAD THEM FOR 10 YEARS NOW AND NOW THINK IT'S NOT RELATED TO DETOX BUT THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY GETTING SHORTER IN DURATION
2) How long and intense are your walks? If you are walking for more than 30 minutes at a stretch, you might try breaking your long walks up into two shorter ones.
I'VE BEEN DOING 25 MINUTES WITH A 5 MINUTE COOL-DOWN.
3) How are you feeling DURING your walks? Does the fatigue only set in afterward?
I FEEL FINE DURING THE WALK THE FATIGUE COMES ABOUT 90 MINUTES LATER
4) How much sleep are you getting, and have you ever been tested for sleep apnea? This is a very common culprit behind fatigue, particularly among folks carrying extra weight. Ditto with sleep walking combined with sleep eating (more common than you might think!). I HAD A SLEEP TEST AND HAVE A CPAP MACHINE. MY APNEA WAS MINIMAL 2-3 TIMES PER NIGHT BUT MY SNORING IS DISRUPTIVE. i GOT MY TONSILS AND ADNOIDS OUT WHEN i WAS LITTLE AN\D MY UVULA AS AN ADULT
5) Are you keeping a food journal — or can you think about what you’re eating for breakfast and lunch and let us know? It may be you are either running out of energy or dealing with some other fuel-related problem. Let us know and we’ll be happy to try and help you sort it out! I WILL KEEP A JOURNAL FOR THE NEXT WEEK NOTING EATING, EXERCISE AND TIRED SPELLS
6) We’re assuming you’re not doing any diet sodas or diet foods, but tell us if you are. And are you drinking enough water? NO DIET FOODS, NO PROCESSED FOODS. DRINKING MORE WATER, COULD DRINK MORE. i HAVE HAD 2-3 QUARTER CUPS OF COFFEE WHEN THE TIRED SPELLS HIT
Christy, I really appreciate this info. Looking back on my post I think there is more to it than the food but I feel like I'm on the right track. My legs feel SO much better. My feet to. Also, I had darker patches of skin where my shins meet my feet and those have lightened up dramaticlly. My dr. told me these were common with Pre-Diabetes.
So I will keep a journal and let you know!!!
Here is one of my favorite quotes in honor of Marianne Williamson gracing your cover soon.
"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous? Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine, as children do. We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It's not just in some of us; it's in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.”
Peace and Love,
Tony
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November 25, 2008 11:19 PM
Jamie Martin says:
by Tony on Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:06 pm
Sharron,
I'm going to start a food journal tomorrow. Want to join me? I'm going to try and post every night. Maybe this will give you some insight.
Pat and Clarke,
Sounds like you guys are doing great! It's so great you have each other to do this with!! Keep it up.
Tony
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November 25, 2008 11:20 PM
Jamie Martin says:
Re: Stalled Weight Loss
by pgerasimo on Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:03 am
Tony, Sharon, I heard back from Dr. Hyman yesterday. He confirmed much of what I'd suggested in my response of a couple days ago and adds:
"If people get stuck, it is usually something deeper – toxins, infections, hormonal, such as thyroid, etc., and that usually needs extra investigation. There are answers but they take a little digging... They will likely need to see someone -- like me, or another doc who can help them navigate."
The bottom line is this: If you are following the UltraMetabolism program quite strictly and still not losing weight and/or still suffering with low energy, there is a good chance there is an underlying metabolic or health problem that needs looking into by a health pro. We've got a number of thyroid-related resources at this week's support page, and you may want to take a look at that stuff for starters. Meanwhile, keep following the program, too, because that will support your body's reboot and rebuilding of ALL its healthy systems. It will also minimize the irritations that tend to put those systems off track and thus contribute to weight gain.
As you heal, many underlying health problems will naturally tend to recede. Still, as Dr. Hyman suggests, you may also want to consult a good investigative doctor who can help you uncover core health issues, hormonal imbalances, infections or toxicities that require more direct treatment. You might consult the directory at the UltraWellness.com site, or even see about getting on Dr. Hyman's schedule for a consult.
Hope that helps, and please, keep the questions coming!
P.
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November 25, 2008 11:20 PM
Jamie Martin says:
2 weeks
by TonyT on Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:04 am
Well kind of. I'll be brief as I don't want to hog this board.
Thanks again Pilar for the info. I get my blood tested again in a couple weeks and I'm going to pay attention to that thyroid number!
Wen to my Italian dinner and did some conscious eating. I don't drink so not having wine was easy. Past up on the rolls but did have a very small serving of pasta and 1 homade italian sausage. It was funny because I noticed that my portions were very simimliar to the "normal" skinny people around me. Normally I would've been heaping on the helpins'. I than came the cheescake. I hade a small piece and I noticed one very important things that Pilar had pointed out in class. The first two bites my taste buds "Lit up"! The next few bites my taste buds were like, "OK - we've experienced this already what's next?" In the past it would have taken another piece to fulfill that lit up kind of feeling and thus the law of diminishing returns kicks-in. 2 bites = 1 1/2 pieces in terms of pleasure.
This is big. I enjoyed my one piece ready to take on the consequences the next day and stopped eating.
So I feel OK so far this a.m. but expect to feel it this aft. That's fine I'm back on the detox already.
GOOD NEWS. Got on the scale this morning after skipping for a few days and am down 6 pounds. yoo hee! Also no almonds yesterday and had no tiredness. I have more to say about that but will save for another time.
Peace,
Tony
Albert Einstein once commented that - "the most fundamental question we can ever ask ourselves is whether or not the universe we live in is friendly or hostile." He hypothesized that your answer to that question would determine your destiny.
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November 25, 2008 11:21 PM
Jamie Martin says:
by Bill on Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:34 am
Hi Everyone,
Well I am now starting my third week. It has been going well. I have lost 8 lbs and I am determined
to go the full three weeks. As Jen has struggled with dairy, so have I. I do miss my cottage cheese.
Breakfast is also a struggle, but I have gotten used to fruit and some almond butter. Last week I was
at a work conference and the good news is that I was not tempted by all the non-approved foods.
Hope everyone is doing well and thanks to everyone who is providing feedback on this blog. It sure
helps! Bill
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November 26, 2008 8:11 AM
Jamie Martin says:
Re: Italian Dinner Insights
by Pilar Gerasimo on Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:42 am
Woo hoo! That is such FANTASTIC feedback and insight, Tony!
It's so cool to hear how you're putting this stuff into practice -- taking it all the way through the Assessment, Commitment, Feedback, FollowThrough cycle and back to Assessment again. And congrats on the 6 lbs dropped -- I'm guessing you'll see that weight loss continue now!
Huge insight about self-medicating and food, about the pleasure drop-off, about what it takes to reach satisfaction with something.
Good insight about the almonds, too -- it sounds like they could be an issue for you (various types of tree-nuts are trouble for many folks). You might try going off tree nuts for a week or two, or at least trying pecans or walnuts as an alternate. Either way, you might start building in some shaved, unsweetened coconut and seeds where you've been relying on nuts for snacks, breakfasts, etc. Just make sure you keep getting enough protein and healthy fats, and don't let yourself get overly hungry.
I love that you had such a conscious experience at the Italian dinner and it also sounds like you also actually enjoyed the event, which is terrific. What you are describing, I want to point out, is of an example what Marc David calls "ordered eating" -- as opposed to "disordered eating" (we've listed his book, Nourishing Wisdom, in our recommended reading for this week). Conscious, experimental, aware, enjoyable. And the cool thing is, once you've had that experience, it's much easier to get there again and again AND much easier to notice when you're back on an unconscious track.
So, with regard to the pasta, etc., I'll be really interested to hear about what you experience and notice through the digestion and post-eating response in your body, mind, emotion, etc. Note, particularly, any energy swings, digestive weirdness, cravings or mental focus issues that come up. The cool thing about keeping a food journal is that it allows you to see all kinds of patterns you'd otherwise miss -- and you're already seeing the advantages of that, it sounds like!
One suggestion I'd like to offer: Is there something kind and healthy and pleasurable you can do for yourself to celebrate the successful experience you had at the dinner? Maybe a small self-gift (a great upbeat CD or iTune download; nifty piece of kitchen gear; a fun, bright- colored shirt, a great-smelling all-natural shaving cream; a splurge on organic pears) -- or maybe the gift of a couple of hours you can spend working on a Vision Board for your best, healthiest life (directions for doing a Vision Board are also in this week's recommended resources) ...
Celebrating success is a HUGELY important part of the expanding cycle. And you just had a major success! So, no pressure, but I just wanted to put that out there! Same goes for everyone else who is still working this process and staying aware of how they are doing, blips and warts and all. Time to celebrate what you've done so far!
Speaking of which, I reintroduced dairy again yesterday (this time on its own, sans gluten), and didn't notice a whole lot in the way of reaction, although my whole elimination world has been a little weird the past couple weeks, so it's a little hard to know. I'm going to try this week on dairy, and if things don't normalize, I'll try another round off it -- maybe two or three weeks this time -- to see if I can notice any greater difference. Right now, though, I'm feeling pretty good!
P.
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November 26, 2008 8:11 AM
Jamie Martin says:
Re: Detox
by Pilar Gerasimo on Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:52 am
Hey Bill, great news on the weight loss, and great work staying with the program! I'm zipping to an appointment now, but I'll try to get on later today to write more.
Couple questions for anyone still on the program: How are your energy levels, and are you seeing any drop off in inflammation/puffiness anywhere in your body (hands, face, etc.)? Have you repeated the toxicity assessment to see if any other other symptoms have dropped off at all? Even if you had a relatively low score to start out with, you might be surprised to see that some little mystery symptoms have diminished or disappeared ... I've gone from a 9 to a 5 since we started... happy!
P.
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November 26, 2008 8:12 AM
Jamie Martin says:
Re: Energy and Caffeine
by Pilar Gerasimo on Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:59 pm
Just a thought since Tony mentioned that he's having a little coffee to help him through tired spells ...
I happen to LOVE good coffee, and although I don't drink that much of it now (one to two cups in the morning, none the rest of the day), I've gone through periods of drinking up to six cups a day, which was WAY too much. Even though I've only been doing a max of two cups a day the last couple years, I definitely had a little addiction going before we started this program (and man, during the workshop, I had the caffeine withdrawl headache to prove it).
Anyway, in my view, caffeine isn't the worst thing in the world -- when used in moderation, and as long as you acknowledge it's a drug -- but one thing that's tricky about it is the way it can help us mask or drive on through low-energy periods we'd be better off recognizing and respecting for what they are.
It turns out that in addition to the circadian rhythms most of us have heard about (waking/sleeping cycles), our bodies go through another series of important rhythmic cycles throughout the day -- known as ultradian rhythms -- that result in peaks and troughs in our energy. During low-energy periods, our cells refuel with the chemicals they need to produce more energy. We experience a little lull, and then, lo and behold, we experience a return of energy. Except that when we drive through those low periods, or try to postpone them by using coffee or sugar to get us through, the refueling thing doesn't happen, and so we start experiencing more and more low-energy periods (and deeper energy troughs) as a result. This leads us to grow dependent on stimulants (sugar, caffeine, etc.) and as our cycles get more out of whack, our energy problem gets worse. Messed-up ultradian rhythms can affect our appetites, too.
We did a good feature on this a while back called "Energy Crisis" that's also in this week's collection of recommended support articles. Take a peek at it -- lots of good suggestions for how to use the ultradian rhythm thing to your advantage. And some great alternatives to caffeine and sugar loading for when those low periods do strike.
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November 26, 2008 8:12 AM
Jamie Martin says:
Re: Detox
by Lorna on Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:49 pm
Hi everybody-- i'm a bit late in joining this group. I hope some of you are still checking in here. I see there are lots of lurkers, so that's good. I've been doing the program pretty faithfully for the last two weeks. LOVE the ultrabroth, and i now use it to add to recipes i'm making. I've been enjoying shopping for everything, and it feels really great to be eating well. I purchased Mark's books, and found conflicting direction on the order to add foods back in. Does anybody know why he's flipped the order for our group (i.e. more allergy producing first)? I think i'm going to wait another week or two before adding food in.
Yesterday, i found myself in a jam with finding food to eat. I was nearby a health-food store and wound up buying a macro/organic veggie roll (i.e. Maki roll) and chick peas. I thought i was safe, but apparently not. I woke up a screaming headache this morning. I've had it all day. Might be sinus related due to the rain, but i'm wondering if there was something in there. I've noticed that I do get headaches from the select-your-own salads in NYC (you know, the kind where you point to what you want and they mix it up for you). I'm guessing there's some kind of preservative in the food, and it gives me a headache!
Thanks for the group. I love taking care of my body again.
-Lorna
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November 26, 2008 8:12 AM
Jamie Martin says:
Re: Detox
by Lorna on Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:59 pm
One thing i forgot to mention -- i did purchase some of the vitamins (Women's wellness essentials and Vitamin D) and the daily protein formula (Ultraclear). I am convinced these are making me feel better. If you remember I said in the beginning of our weekend that I was feeling undernourished. After just two weeks (and just week of vitamin supplementation) I no longer feel undernourished, and in fact i feel fairly well nourished. I suspect my digestion is still off and i will probably order the probiotics. I did also get the FiProFLAX, and i really like the stuff. I put in right in my a.m. shake. Anybody else start up with some of the recommended supplementation?
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November 26, 2008 8:13 AM
Jamie Martin says:
Nuts!
by Tony on Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:49 am
So I'm forever grateful that I did an Alcat Food Sensitivity Test last year. It is helping through this process. I tell all my friends, ex-wife, kids, etc. Don't hint around with me if you need something. Bang me over the head with a two-by-four. Is this typical guy or just me?
So hunting for the subtle nuances of the reactions from food has always been tough. So if I follow what foods to eat ( see earlier post) and what not to eat I do much better!! Which brings me to nuts. According to my test all of these fall under the mild intolerance section. Almond, Cashew, Coconut, Peanut. Under seeds I have safflower and sunflower. Flaxseeds come up clean. I love the nut butters other than Soy have you guys heard of others? Also, what are some good healthy fat choice options that don't fall under the above.
Thanks,
Tony
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November 26, 2008 8:13 AM
Jamie Martin says:
Subtle Nuance?
by Tony on Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:06 am
It's 10:30 am and I have just battled my first sleep attack since last week. How do I describe these. They are not, "Oh boy, I'm getting sleepy. I should go sit on the couch." It's like "Damn, I feel it coming on. Open those eyes. Keep working. Than my head snaps backwards and I look at the keyboard and see "kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk" k being the last key my finger was on. This all in the space of 2 minutes. Thankfully I didn't have to struggle too long and am typing this.
So is the food involved? Working backwards. Breakfast was clean, I did have some decaf. Last night I grabbed some deli meet from the fridge before bed. I normally liked this stuff but notice how incredibly salty it really is. Oh and I had little bites from the crock pot where I had made the kids chicken and dumplings and before that some more little bites and ... So my evening wasn't so clean. It wasn't that bad but neither was my tiredness.
Interesting because I always only looked back an hour or two in the past to see what foods I ate. Sandwich for lunch, tired at 2:00 now this may very well be but it seems like I set my self up for a "fall" starting last night. Could that be? and if so no wonder it's hard to figure out. Not only to we get somewhat immedaite effect but sort of a cumulative one to. Back to clean today. Keep you posted ono the tiredness.
BTW - I love your pictures of Marianne Williamson. I've had a crush on her since I briefly met her in '99. Wonderful spiritual person and pretty to boot! Ya think she'd ever want to come over for a night of special broth for dinner and a DVD?
You guys are the best,
Tony
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November 26, 2008 8:14 AM
Jamie Martin says:
Re: Detox
by Pilar Gerasimo on Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:50 am
Great stuff, Tony! And very funny about MW ... I'm sure she'd love you!
Yeah, it's amazing how much more aware and sensitive the body gets as it gets healthier. You're doing super sleuth work, though, and that's really your most important tool in figuring out what works for you.
On the nuts and nut-butter options, I know there's hemp-seed butter, and then there's pine nuts, and pumpkin seeds, which you may or may not have issues with. Did you say whether sesame seeds bothered you? That would be another possibility. I'd definitely consider adding healthy EFA oil or Omega 3 capsules (fish oil, flax, borage, etc.) to help supplement your healthy fat intake. Read ingredients carefully to make sure you're not getting something you're sensitive too. And try hummus (unless you've already told me that's out and I forgot -- wish it was easier to see past posts whilst writing!), which is basically ground up garbanzo beans. It's not nut butter and wouldn't work on fruit so well, but it's great in sandwiches and on rice crackers, etc.
Sorry I'm so rushed this week. I'll try and spend a little more time this weekend following up with you and the others. Meanwhile, KEEP IT UP, GANG. I am so happy people are doing well. Me too -- and it's during weeks like this that I really appreciate my energy and vitality for carrying me through! Keep taking your vities and drinking lots of water ...
P.
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November 26, 2008 8:14 AM
Jamie Martin says:
Re: Detox
by Pat on Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:30 pm
You go Tony. Clarke and I are cheering you on.
We are still on the detox diet. I do notice that when I haven't been as vigilent with the diet, I don't sleep as well at night. I should pay more attention. I have had no headaches since club omega which is quite nice.
Noticing that if I don't eat enough, cravings are strong in the evening. Clarke and I went to see the Ottawa Senators lose a hockey game last week and I felt like rolling a kid for his hot dog. It seemed all 20,000 people in attendance were eating and drinking something. Normally, the last thing I would choose to eat is a hot dog but I think it was only because I had a quick salad for lunch and soup for supper. Not enough to sustain one in a palace of junk food aka hockey arena.
Haven't had my favorite glass of red wine in 20 days, but then who is counting.
Cheers
Pat
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November 26, 2008 8:15 AM
Jamie Martin says:
Re: Detox
by newval on Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:50 pm
Hi club omega! (Nice name Pat)
Good to see that everybody is feeling pretty good.
I just realized that I've been eating eggplants (in the nightshade category), I thought they were in the "food to enjoy" category. I was looking forward to starting Phase II. Do you guys think that I should extend my detox period? I'm feeling OK.
Besides this, I still have to figure out the exercise part. I walk to work every day, but I really want to do the interval training.
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Stay strong!
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November 26, 2008 8:16 AM
Jamie Martin says:
Re: Detox
by pgerasimo on Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:18 pm
You know, if you're feeling good, I wouldn't worry too much about the eggplant. Nightshades are only a problem for some people. You might try cutting them out for a week and see if you feel any better, but other than that, I'd just keep going on the path you're on and start introducing things as instructed in the reintroduction part of the program. Just pay close attention to you energy, digestion, etc. as you go.
Re: intervals, yeah! Absolutely, give it a try when you get a chance. Make sure to do the "Find Your A.T." thing first, so you get a sense of what your A.T. feels like and why it's such an important trigger for fitness change. Then have at the HIIT workouts (assuming you have some base fitness and no medical reason not to). It's really just about finding your edge and sitting with a little intensity for a few seconds. Then a few seconds more, and so on. Do that consistently for even a couple weeks and you'll be feeling a difference.
Let us know if you need any help or encouragement. First time I did the interval thing, I just did two. I actually started out planning to do just one, but I found it exhilarating enough I wanted to repeat it before my workout ended. Then I just built up. Now I'm doing the 6x30 second phase, which is cool. I'm not ready to shorten my recovery intervals yet, but I know I'll get there. Particularly if I can lower my stress level a bit.
My poor little dog, Frida (a.k.a. The Muppy) got hit by a car yesterday and had to have her leg amputated, so I'm a total stress case at the moment. Wish us luck! We're all going to be a little wobbly for a while.
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November 26, 2008 8:16 AM
Jamie Martin says:
Re: Detox
by newval on Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:48 pm
Oh, I'm sorry to hear what happened to your dog. I wish "The Muppy" a quick recovery and your family to find some comfort as he gets better.
Thanks for your suggestions. I'll see how it goes next week. I already froze the quinoa and eggplant meal I prepared this week.
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November 26, 2008 8:17 AM
Jamie Martin says:
Re: Detox
by Bill on Sat Nov 01, 2008 7:39 am
Hello everyone - Glad to read all the feedback. It is very encouraging. Well, I have reached 3 weeks. I have to
say I feel great. The only thing I miss is milk in my coffee! So today I will add dairy. I think I am going to keep
the glutens, eggs and sugar out of my diet for a couple of weeks. I just feel less bloated and do not miss the
stomach cramps. We'll see how it goes. I am so glad that I attended our UM workshop. It is one of those
workshops that just made sense. Hope everyone is doing well and have a great weekend. Bill
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November 26, 2008 8:17 AM
Jamie Martin says:
Re: Detox
by Pat on Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:19 pm
Pilar,
I am really sorry to hear about The Muppy. How difficult for your whole family.
I just finished taking my 3 dogs for a big romp in the woods. Lots of mud and burrs. Dogs are really a part of the family. Keep us informed as to how things are going with your poor pup.
Well Clarke and I had Thai food last night and shared a bottle of wine. I have to admit that I went crazy and had some Halloween candy as well. We are both back on the bandwagon today. Clarke has lost 13 lb. and I have only managed to shed 4 lb. but we both feel so much better. Clarke's goal is to throw the Lipitor in the garbage. My goal is to sleep well at night and have lots of energy. Amazing how food affects both of those goals.
Cheers and have a wonderful weekend.
Pat
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November 26, 2008 8:18 AM
Jamie Martin says:
Re: Detox
by newval on Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:45 am
Hello guys!
This morning, I filled out the toxicity questionnaire and I'm glad to report that my score was 25.
Back at omega, I was nearing 100.
Also, I went back to my art class yesterday and the class monitor was amazed at the change in my appearance..Mostly my skin..She could not stop complimenting me on my skin.
So, I thought I'd share this with you.
Cheers!
V.
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November 26, 2008 8:18 AM
Jamie Martin says:
Re: Detox
by Pat on Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:02 pm
Pilar, I have a favor to ask. My 23 year old daughter has been sick for 6 years. When I talked to Dr. Hyman about her during the workshop weekend, he suggested a college Dr. Regan here in Ottawa. My daughter has tried to get an appointment but has been unsuccessful because there is a very long waiting list. She is now having abdominal pain that she cannot get a diagnosis for. If you are talking to Dr. Hyman, would he be able to get my daughter an appointment with Dr. Regan as a favor?
In the meantime, I will phone Dr. Hyman's office and attempt to get an appointment for her with him. She just cannot seem to get help with her family doctor.
Pat
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November 26, 2008 8:19 AM
Jamie Martin says:
Re: Detox
by pgerasimo on Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:54 pm
Hey all, it's election evening and I'm all a-twitter. To keep my mind calm, a quick update on our dog, Frida. She is currently curled up on a blanket at my feet and healing well. We are just so relieved that she is still with us. Still no idea who hit her, and we probably will never know. But I give thanks for her strength and vitality.
Speaking of which, I'm so glad to be hearing such great tales of vitality from y'all. Isn't great skin just the total frosting on the (gluten-free) cake?
Pat, I'm happy to drop a note to Dr. Hyman regarding your daughter. More when I am not being interrupted by election-related phone calls every 20 seconds. I'll try to catch up on the forums this weekend.
By the way, the dairy experiments continue — and so far so good, at least in moderation. Gluten, I am completely clear, is not my friend. And to be honest, I don't miss it. I saw a guy eating a big serving of pasta with cream sauce the other day and it kind of made me nauseous.
One thing I've tried and really liked: Smoked oysters in olive oil on rice crackers. Yum and yum again.
Fond regards,
P.
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November 26, 2008 8:20 AM
Jamie Martin says:
Re: Detox
by Pat on Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:12 pm
Hi Pilar,
So happy to hear that your dog is doing well.
Thank you for dropping a note to Dr. H. My daughter called his office today and will have an appointment at his office with his colleague on Dec. 1st. I am excited for her that she may finally have an opportunity to discover what is causing her to be sick.
Pretty exciting election! Our little six week affair was pretty tame by comparison.
Cheers
Pat
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November 26, 2008 8:20 AM
Jamie Martin says:
Re: Detox
by Pat on Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:27 pm
A few week four observations:
It is interesting how in tune with my body I have become during the last 3.5 weeks.
After diving into some Halloween candy on Fri. and Sat., I noticed that I was back to my afternoon fatigue and had my first afternoon nap since commencing this program. I am clearly sensitive to sugar and should likely avoid the temptation if I want to feel energetic. The good thing is that since being UltraSmart is a new way of life, the chocolate detour was a short one and I am back on track.
After trying dairy on Mon., I had a crappy sleep last night and my first headache for a while. I guess I'll have to be more tuned to dairy.
Still eating healthy and the planning involved is becoming second nature. I always have almonds and dried cranberries in my car for emergencies.
Hope everyone is still doing well.
Tony how are things with you?
Pat
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November 26, 2008 8:20 AM
Jamie Martin says:
Re: Detox
by newval on Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:15 pm
Hi Pat,
I had a similar reaction to the dairy reintroduction. I also developed a rash on my thighs. So I stopped and reintroduced gluten. Seems to be OK.
I guess dairy is probably not a "recommendable" food category. Some people are just more tolerant than others.
I command you on your workout regimen. I yet have to get on board.
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November 26, 2008 8:21 AM
Jamie Martin says:
Stuff
by Tony on Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:22 am
Been gone for awhile. Just wanted to catch up. Pat - Thanks for asking about me - sounds like your doing some good detective work. Pilar - sorry to here about your dog. Glad he/she is doing better!! Give em a big hug from me.
I'm hit a bit of a wall right at three and a half weeks. Even had a small cup of ice cream two nights in a row. Didn't do to bad on the halloween candy. Didn't eat more than 5-10! This lull was not unexpected by me as 3 weeks is all I've ever really given any type of plan before. I am back on track and wanted to share with you some of my favorite things.
I'm trying to avoid all nuts as muy sensitivity test listed most. The only thing under "OK to eat" for seeds and nuts is flaxseed. No the reactions are listed as very mmild so I'm going to do some research to see if I can rotate different nuts.
My staple right now is roasted turkey, different flavored hummus from trader joes and some free range beef. Also, I ordered some of the whole-kernel rye bread feautred in Pilar's mag. IO got 12 loaaves for $30 from Amazon. About 1/2 normal price. I really like it except it has oat listed in the ingredient which is on my verbooten list. I'm still trying it becuase it's the 2nd to last ingredient listed. So it's presence is small.
I did see my Doctor again - I see him every 3 mos. for a blood test and consult. My weight is down 8 lbs since I last saw him and my fasting blood sugar is 118. But there is some number that is 6.5 that needs to go down to 5.9. So I need to keep doing this. The good news is that I don't crave the chips and breads etc. and am actually enjoying a desert of a banana with some nut butter.
Exercise. The next fronteir. I've been swamped busy since I got back and have been skirting my exercise. having said that I'm thinking of what pilar said about going out and at least taking three breaths. Will do today at lunch!!
All in all things are good. Didn't have the gumption to take the train downtown to Grant park on election night. Kinda wish I had but sure enjoyed watching the returns. BTW I have a client in England and asked her if they had been paying attention to our election and she responded."Oh my yes. I was up all night watching the returns and it was about 5:00am in England when we started celebrating."
Awesome stuff.
Back from my cave - funny as I was going off the path I didn't want to come here! But here I an soldiering onward!!
Peace,
Tony
"Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek." Barack Obama
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November 26, 2008 8:22 AM
Jamie Martin says:
Re: Detox
by newval on Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:35 pm
Hi Tony,
Bravo on being back on track. And thanks for sharing your journey in healthy habits. It's definitely not an easy thing with our junk-preservative-corn-syrup-bad-fat environment.
Exercise-wise, I figured even a 10-minute sweat is worth it.
Good luck!
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November 26, 2008 8:22 AM
Jamie Martin says:
Re: Detox
by newval on Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:43 pm
"Lorna wrote:
One thing i forgot to mention -- i did purchase some of the vitamins (Women's wellness essentials and Vitamin D) and the daily protein formula (Ultraclear). I am convinced these are making me feel better. If you remember I said in the beginning of our weekend that I was feeling undernourished. After just two weeks (and just week of vitamin supplementation) I no longer feel undernourished, and in fact i feel fairly well nourished. I suspect my digestion is still off and i will probably order the probiotics. I did also get the FiProFLAX, and i really like the stuff. I put in right in my a.m. shake. Anybody else start up with some of the recommended supplementation?"
Hi Lorna,
besides the enzymes and ultra clear, I haven't tried any other supplement. They're kind of expensive...
I'm planning to get some vitamin D and the women's wellness packets soon. In the meantime, I'm enjoying the detox baths once a week.
Take care!
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November 26, 2008 8:23 AM
Jamie Martin says:
Pilar's Pooch
by Tony on Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:16 am
Hello all,
Just a personal note to Pilar as I just finished reading about your dog in the new issue of the mag. I know you had told us earlier but I just wanted to say how nice your editorial was.
Well rounded dogs are experts at living in the moment. I was walking my black lab on some railroad tracks across a bridge. Dumb idea! And she slipped and her hind legs fell through the railroad ties and she was literaly hanging by the front half of her body. I kept the leash tight and got over to her and pulled her out and carried her the rest of the way. She had been inches from certain death and when I put her down on the other side... smell, smell, sniff, sniff, she was on her merry way. No past, no future just the next smell!!
Keep us updated on your pooch.
Thanks,
Tony
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